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Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue
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Author:  Deiphago [ 14 Nov 2017, 09:25 ]
Post subject:  Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

These duels were from earlier in the evening, lag was above average but overall this is some good quality PvP.

It was a high latency game and these were just some fast paced duels - we were essentially hitting the frame breakpoints of casting spells & projectile attacks with the given classes and respective builds involved.. These were some violent duels.

Highlights are Round 2 & Round 4:

(R1) https://youtu.be/KMVUXuLB9Tc

(R2) https://youtu.be/2qjrV2PnjDE

(R3) https://youtu.be/lEpaFjZ39dQ

(R4) https://youtu.be/db_yy2G141c

Author:  FireIceTalon [ 14 Nov 2017, 09:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

:-)

Think I was on coke, speed, and caffeine these rounds. Great rounds mate.

Author:  Deiphago [ 14 Nov 2017, 09:30 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

FireIceTalon wrote:
:-)

Think I was on coke, speed, and caffeine these rounds. Great rounds mate.


Yeah man, this was at top speed - great rounds

Author:  greenorbwizard5 [ 14 Nov 2017, 09:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

pro strats!? PogChamp


Diablibz will fall at the might of human blood and STEEL!

Author:  D1Legit [ 14 Nov 2017, 14:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

wow the melee rogue won...

Would think that strat would work even better on a sorce no?

Author:  Tristram [ 14 Nov 2017, 16:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

Extremely entertaining to watch and very well Played from Both Players.

That Melee Rogue Looks Awesome.

Author:  FireIceTalon [ 14 Nov 2017, 17:05 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

D1Legit wrote:
wow the melee rogue won...

Would think that strat would work even better on a sorce no?


The latency was pretty far from being ideal. It was the the type of lag that heavily favored melee chars, so I will gladly take a 2-2 score in this instance :)

Melee rogue vs. sorc is generally a bad idea. Sorc got way too much mana, power, and a faster cast rate for a melee rogue to be competitive, especially since they lack the damage of a warrior. Rare exceptions against a nasty counter-casting sorc can happen, when a melee rogue could be viable, but this is extremely rare. As a general rule, a rogue should always have a bow in her hands when facing a sorc.

Author:  D1Legit [ 15 Nov 2017, 15:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

FireIceTalon wrote:
D1Legit wrote:
wow the melee rogue won...

Would think that strat would work even better on a sorce no?



Melee rogue vs. sorc is generally a bad idea.


Not to drag this out but I ment replacing the "melee rogue" with a battle mage. so...

Author:  Deiphago [ 15 Nov 2017, 17:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

D1Legit wrote:
FireIceTalon wrote:
D1Legit wrote:
wow the melee rogue won...

Would think that strat would work even better on a sorce no?



Melee rogue vs. sorc is generally a bad idea.


Not to drag this out but I ment replacing the "melee rogue" with a battle mage. so...


Ah, yeah, I understand. Well the rogue has her advantages and disadvantages in this duel, just like a sorc would have. Only in this case her melee damage output is higher (easier to stun) and she has faster attack..Of course compared to Sorc's cast rate this is obsolete, but that's the point.

The point of going spell heavy melee is to force the Bow Rogue off of the 'classic build' (ob/stars x2) and go with a higher mana count. It's a pretty even duel man, I highly suggest trying it out :-) it's a lot of fun, and it's a good challenge; which is pretty much the only reason why I use this build, along with the fact I think it's more fun than warr vs. rogue because rogue has higher cast rate than warr. It creates a more dynamic duel sometimes.

It all comes down to preference though, this is in no way a 'standard' build to use vs. a bow rogue..It kind of takes most of your skill of all classes to really master this style.

Author:  FireIceTalon [ 15 Nov 2017, 18:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: Spell-Heavy Melee Rogue vs. Bow Rogue

D1Legit wrote:
FireIceTalon wrote:
D1Legit wrote:
wow the melee rogue won...

Would think that strat would work even better on a sorce no?



Melee rogue vs. sorc is generally a bad idea.


Not to drag this out but I ment replacing the "melee rogue" with a battle mage. so...


Ah, you meant battle mage vs. bow rogue. Now, that's an interesting duel. Ive found though that stunlock on BM these days is inconsistent, though years ago in LE there were a few sorcs who used this effectively. Spells still have to be your primary offense though, since BM has significantly less sword damage than a melee rogue does.

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